Hi, I came across your blog from looking at Louise's blog. I am what people call a 'born again' Christian. I do not worship Jesus in the flesh, and I agree with you on how He would have looked when He was on earth. I worship Him in the Spirit. All nationalities have been made by God, and God does not live in a house made with hands (a'church' building). He is Spirit, and lives within us when we believe on His Word, Jesus, the Word of God made flesh.
Well, Jesus had a favourite disciple (ahem!) and asked the twelve apostles to leave their wives, so that's all you need to know to assess his sexual orientation.
Regarding his face, they used the features of Zeus/Jupiter.
Amen!! For some reason comments have stopped coming to my email..That's how I am used to responding to them..I don't know what to do about that..Pi---- me off..Always something..Anyhow ..thanks for stopping by..
I'd seen the last one and saved it because it's so on point. But the rest of them a great too. Especially the church sign. I've seen a few other signs I should have saved.
Finally! Do you have any idea of how long your fans have been waiting for you to blog about Historical Jesus? It's about time you got around to it. Now we'll see how long it takes you to blog about gender and sexual orientation.
It doesn't make him any more divine than George Bernard Shaw, but the historical Jesus was a true radical. It wasn't until Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire did Christ--a title he never claimed for himself--become the keeper of the status quo.
Spot on. I was raised by a devout Baptist mother, no say in the matter, just taken to church and Sunday school, no questions asked. But as I got older some things didn't add up and when I started asking questions my mother and the church didn't like it, replying with "That's just the way it is". This all lead to me realising that the whole religion thing was invented to control the masses and make men wealthy and powerful.
Have seen much of this before, but then, I go to a church in which our dear priest recently had surgery for an aggressive form of breast cancer and is being cared for at home by her wife. Can't wait to see your future posts on gender. At least one gender war in our family was waged on religious grounds.
Ugh, religion. So destructive, so negative, so controlling. I'm glad I was raised by atheists who reminded us that 'Religion is the opiate of the masses'. (Not that they were Marxists, mind you!)
I love these! I've always thought it's weird to go into the homes of people who call themselves Christians and see a cheap print on the wall of a Jesus who looks absolutely nothing like the way a real person in the Middle East would have looked. They create God in their own image.
Guillaume is right, he was given the features of Jupiter. I saw this on a documentary recently. Look at the Byzantine images, very different. I’m a Jew. So was Jesus. How do you think I felt hearing from a boy who’d been in a Catholic primary school that Jesus was a Catholic? That was after he had declared that “the Jews killed Christ” and a teacher pointed out that Jesus himself was Jewish.
The Nazis made him the son of a German soldier in the Roman army. 🙄
In a small way, this reminds me of an episode of the 70's show "Good Times", in which Michael, the youngest, replaced the picture of Jesus with picture of a black Jesus. Suddenly good things started happening, which in turn put the main character into a quandary about whether or not to keep the black or change it back to white.
Ultimately, for the sake of the show she turned it back to the original (white), but it made for an interesting show since it put a religious person into a moral quandary about the color of Jesus and handled it as a serious subject as opposed for comedy purposes.
the transmogrification of Jesus from a man to a god, doesn't pass the smell test. It requires consensual gullibility to worship a man-god and to insert a god into the gaps of scientific unknowns. Religions have done nothing for the advancement of mankind, and on the contrary has opposed and retarded progress in science, medicine and human rights throughout the ages. the Ol'Buzzard
I think most practising Christians are aware Jesus wasn't white. If people believe that Jesus (historical) existed, he was either a complete nutcase going around saying he was the son of God and performing miracles etc. or he was who he said he was. Can't have it both ways.
My parents had one of those white cliche Jesus in their bedroom My late mentor Brother gave me a very human almost sexy portrait rather. It looks more believable.
You are SO on point with this!
ReplyDeleteThese are the answers to the #jesussowhite hashtag. And that answer to the little girl? Accurate!
XOXO
Yes to all of this. And to a blonde Mary. Sez who?
ReplyDeleteBravo.
ReplyDeletethe last illustration is more accurate.
ReplyDeleteSo on point!
ReplyDeleteHi, I came across your blog from looking at Louise's blog. I am what people call a 'born again' Christian. I do not worship Jesus in the flesh, and I agree with you on how He would have looked when He was on earth. I worship Him in the Spirit. All nationalities have been made by God, and God does not live in a house made with hands (a'church' building). He is Spirit, and lives within us when we believe on His Word, Jesus, the Word of God made flesh.
ReplyDeleteYes, Yes, Yes!!! to every one of these!
ReplyDeleteIf the Jesus looked like this one....that would blow A LOT of minds.
ReplyDeleteCould I get that last one printed on a t-shirt? I never know what to wear to family reunions.
ReplyDeleteNo lies detected... but I definitely heard myself snarkily guffaw a few times.
ReplyDeleteTHIS is why I'm an atheist.
ReplyDeleteBTW I'm stealing a few of these for my Religion in a Nutshell post.
Absolutely ... yes. I would offend so much of my family if I showed them this!
ReplyDeleteBut this is so very true.
Well, Jesus had a favourite disciple (ahem!) and asked the twelve apostles to leave their wives, so that's all you need to know to assess his sexual orientation.
ReplyDeleteRegarding his face, they used the features of Zeus/Jupiter.
Amen!! For some reason comments have stopped coming to my email..That's how I am used to responding to them..I don't know what to do about that..Pi---- me off..Always something..Anyhow ..thanks for stopping by..
ReplyDeleteYes to all of these!!!
ReplyDeleteGive me a great big AMEN!
ReplyDeleteYou've done it again!
ReplyDeleteOh the disturbing insanity of it all!
ReplyDeleteI'd seen the last one and saved it because it's so on point. But the rest of them a great too. Especially the church sign. I've seen a few other signs I should have saved.
ReplyDeleteThank you!
ReplyDeleteOY VEY!
ReplyDeleteFinally! Do you have any idea of how long your fans have been waiting for you to blog about Historical Jesus? It's about time you got around to it. Now we'll see how long it takes you to blog about gender and sexual orientation.
ReplyDelete@ Old Lurker -- Sorry you had to wait so long! FYI, I'll be blogging about Jesus & gender in May, and Jesus & sexual orientation in June.
ReplyDeleteThese so true.
ReplyDeleteCoffee is on and stay safe
It doesn't make him any more divine than George Bernard Shaw, but the historical Jesus was a true radical. It wasn't until Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire did Christ--a title he never claimed for himself--become the keeper of the status quo.
ReplyDeleteSpot on. I was raised by a devout Baptist mother, no say in the matter, just taken to church and Sunday school, no questions asked. But as I got older some things didn't add up and when I started asking questions my mother and the church didn't like it, replying with "That's just the way it is". This all lead to me realising that the whole religion thing was invented to control the masses and make men wealthy and powerful.
ReplyDeleteRight on sister - these are great!
ReplyDeleteHave seen much of this before, but then, I go to a church in which our dear priest recently had surgery for an aggressive form of breast cancer and is being cared for at home by her wife. Can't wait to see your future posts on gender. At least one gender war in our family was waged on religious grounds.
ReplyDeleteUgh, religion. So destructive, so negative, so controlling. I'm glad I was raised by atheists who reminded us that 'Religion is the opiate of the masses'. (Not that they were Marxists, mind you!)
ReplyDeleteDo these ever hit the nail on the head!!
ReplyDeleteWOW! Great post Debra!!
If Jesus looked like this, would white conservative Christians still be Christian? A man of colour murdered by keepers of the law.
ReplyDeleteThese very accurately sum up today's Christians.
I love these! I've always thought it's weird to go into the homes of people who call themselves Christians and see a cheap print on the wall of a Jesus who looks absolutely nothing like the way a real person in the Middle East would have looked. They create God in their own image.
ReplyDeleteLove,
Janie
Guillaume is right, he was given the features of Jupiter. I saw this on a documentary recently. Look at the Byzantine images, very different. I’m a Jew. So was Jesus. How do you think I felt hearing from a boy who’d been in a Catholic primary school that Jesus was a Catholic? That was after he had declared that “the Jews killed Christ” and a teacher pointed out that Jesus himself was Jewish.
ReplyDeleteThe Nazis made him the son of a German soldier in the Roman army. 🙄
In a small way, this reminds me of an episode of the 70's show "Good Times", in which Michael, the youngest, replaced the picture of Jesus with picture of a black Jesus. Suddenly good things started happening, which in turn put the main character into a quandary about whether or not to keep the black or change it back to white.
ReplyDeleteUltimately, for the sake of the show she turned it back to the original (white), but it made for an interesting show since it put a religious person into a moral quandary about the color of Jesus and handled it as a serious subject as opposed for comedy purposes.
i found this one bit sensitive yet amusing dear Debra
ReplyDeletei liked you pointed out some great issues here and i wonder if they have any answer too ?
the transmogrification of Jesus from a man to a god, doesn't pass the smell test. It requires consensual gullibility to worship a man-god and to insert a god into the gaps of scientific unknowns.
ReplyDeleteReligions have done nothing for the advancement of mankind, and on the contrary has opposed and retarded progress in science, medicine and human rights throughout the ages.
the Ol'Buzzard
I think most practising Christians are aware Jesus wasn't white. If people believe that Jesus (historical) existed, he was either a complete nutcase going around saying he was the son of God and performing miracles etc. or he was who he said he was. Can't have it both ways.
ReplyDeleteYes, we should talk about gender and sexual orientation.
ReplyDeleteExcellent blog; good for you!
@ Linda -- Sorry for your pain, Linda. I should have caught that hurtful language before publishing the comment.
ReplyDeleteVery good! The one about the white conservatives is a good question though.
ReplyDeleteMy parents had one of those white cliche Jesus in their bedroom
ReplyDeleteMy late mentor Brother gave me a very human almost sexy portrait rather. It looks more believable.
Great post Debra! Big Hugs!
ReplyDeleteBrilliant, Debra! I've often thought about this.
ReplyDeleteLOVE this. And so true!
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